Please take this if you're not registered for CAC

[arthurc]

Registrations for CAC have slowed down a bit in the last week, so I'm trying to figure out why people may be passing on this event.

[arthurc]

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Okay, who's the Mr. Smartypants!

[SumAznGuy]

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Yeah, who is it? I am number 2.

[Courtenay240sx]

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Don't look at me for being #3

I just couldn't resist going to read the thread, I didn't want to be left out

[arthurc]

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On a suggestion, added possible choice "Waiting to see if the new larger pad will be ready."

[DBM]

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I would be attending (have been waiting for the event to return to the West), but it is on the same weekend as WCMA regional #4, arguably the best of all 7 regional events (2 days of racing) in my home town of Saskatoon. Saskatoon was also a competing bidder for the National event, so I must admit to being a tad miffed that the National event would be scheduled in for the same day as our two day WCMA regional event.
Logistics play a slight role too.

[SkinnyG]

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I am number 2.

"Who is number 1?"

"You are number 6"

"I am not a number! I am a free man!"

[midship]

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Saskatoon was also a competing bidder for the National event, so I must admit to being a tad miffed that the National event would be scheduled in for the same day as our two day WCMA regional event.
Logistics play a slight role too.

We are all under the ASN umbrella and what makes the WCMA regional so important that the CAC, which is National event, has to move to some other spot? Could you suggest another date in the calendar that is well suit for long distance travel for competitors across the country or provinces? (e.g. Aug long weekend ... that would be WCMA Regina regional? ) IMO, the Saskatoon club should have considered moving the regional to another date this year.

It was also sad to see not a single Edmonton club member (I love you guys btw) has signed up for the CAC event for whatever reason. If we, as the closest province to BC do not support the National then who is going to? I had my doubt signing up for the CAC because of the venue uncertainty, but I convinced myself if I descriminate the veneue and missing the big picture of supporting the Canadian National then who will? We'll never be able to get the momentum going for CAC.

Kudo for Gord Z. driving all the way from Winnipeg!

[BoxerFreak]

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Just registered

[leftme]

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I was flipping between going to Nationals or going to Saskatoon and the introduction of the street tire classes made the desicion for me.


Clayton

[lowside67]

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I was flipping between going to Nationals or going to Saskatoon and the introduction of the street tire classes made the desicion for me.


Clayton

Besides, who wants to go to Saskatoon?

I jest I jest, but to all those who doubt - the amount of work the organization team is doing is incredible and this is going to be an event to remember!

[jayc72]

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We are all under the ASN umbrella and what makes the WCMA regional so important that the CAC, which is National event, has to move to some other spot? Could you suggest another date in the calendar that is well suit for long distance travel for competitors across the country or provinces? (e.g. Aug long weekend ... that would be WCMA Regina regional? ) IMO, the Saskatoon club should have considered moving the regional to another date this year.

Why should a long running event like SSIS move when Nationals could have been placed on any weekend? There was no other weekend that would have worked? IMO the CAC organizers should have picked another weekend.

It was also sad to see not a single Edmonton club member (I love you guys btw) has signed up for the CAC event for whatever reason. If we, as the closest province to BC do not support the National then who is going to? I had my doubt signing up for the CAC because of the venue uncertainty, but I convinced myself if I descriminate the veneue and missing the big picture of supporting the Canadian National then who will? We'll never be able to get the momentum going for CAC.

I don't know anyone's else's reason for not attending. Myself I couldn't free the time to go, and honestly I can go to a local event to get my ass handed to me.

But honestly, Edmonton seemed to be nearly ignored by the organizers of CAC. Saw posts about Nationals on Winnipeg's webboard, as well as the Calgary site. Nothing on Edmonton. Seems almost like "we" weren't invited to the party.

Hope everyone has fun!

Jay

[NA94]

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Sorry, but only recently did we learn about 'Mr Heavy Foot'. We honestly thought that the Edmonton guys just used CSCC's forum.

[solo2guy]

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We are all under the ASN umbrella and what makes the WCMA regional so important that the CAC, which is National event, has to move to some other spot? Could you suggest another date in the calendar that is well suit for long distance travel for competitors across the country or provinces? (e.g. Aug long weekend ... that would be WCMA Regina regional? ) IMO, the Saskatoon club should have considered moving the regional to another date this year.

It was also sad to see not a single Edmonton club member (I love you guys btw) has signed up for the CAC event for whatever reason. If we, as the closest province to BC do not support the National then who is going to? I had my doubt signing up for the CAC because of the venue uncertainty, but I convinced myself if I descriminate the veneue and missing the big picture of supporting the Canadian National then who will? We'll never be able to get the momentum going for CAC.

Kudo for Gord Z. driving all the way from Winnipeg!

Sorry Ambrose, I'm (gahhh!!) inclined to agree with Jay. Momentum for CAC would build if we made the SSIS the Nationals every year. The same place every year, it seems to have worked for Topeka. Going from Montreal to Vancouver is just dumb. Who is going to go every year with it jumping around like that?

As far as "supporting" the Nationals, I do feel bad for VCMC, but I'm not going to turn my back on my friends and the SSIS just because someone was foolish enough to schedule it the same weekend. I speculate that it basically came to this: Hey Saskatoon, you can't have the Nationals, but could you move your event to accommodate us anyways?

Do I have a better suggestion for the date? I'm not sure, but how they came to decide on the same weekend as SSIS is a mystery to me.

It's always hard to post stuff like this without someone feeling targeted. It's just my two cents on why I'm not going to Nationals, nothing more. Best of luck to all attending.

[Cliffy]

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Sorry Ambrose, I'm (gahhh!!) inclined to agree with Jay. Momentum for CAC would build if we made the SSIS the Nationals every year. The same place every year, it seems to have worked for Topeka. Going from Montreal to Vancouver is just dumb. Who is going to go every year with it jumping around like that?

Go back far enough in autocross history and you'll find that the SCCA Nationals has also jumped around over the years. They do have the luxury of a facility that will house 1000+ competitors over 4 days though. The CAC is still developing and the decision to bring nationals to the people is part of that development. If you want to sell something to someone, you have to deliver it to them instead of making them come to you. Until enough of a following is gained for CAC, it will continue to be a bi-coastal concept. The fact that Canada is linked only by one major cross country route makes travel difficult for everyone. The U.S. and its network of Interstates helps a single site concept.

As far as "supporting" the Nationals, I do feel bad for VCMC, but I'm not going to turn my back on my friends and the SSIS just because someone was foolish enough to schedule it the same weekend.

Again this comes down to personal choice. If you feel a regional championship is more important than a National Championship, then that's up to you.

I speculate that it basically came to this: Hey Saskatoon, you can't have the Nationals, but could you move your event to accommodate us anyways?

You've also misunderstood the reason behind SSIS not being chosen as CAC.

In re-reading the SSIS proposal dated Oct. 31/06 "The preferred event date is September 1st and 2nd, 2007, (Labour day long weekend) with an alternate date of August
11th and 12th, 2007." There goes your theory.

In scheduling CAC, consideration was also given to the timing of SCCA Nationals so that the two events would have enough time between them (for travel, etc.). National level competitors tend to go to both events. While SSIS may be a big event in the WCMA calendar, it is not the big event in terms of the overall National calendar of events which includes other ASN Territories as well as SCCA.

The main reason why the SSIS proposal was passed over was the overall impresssion that the ASN SoloSport Committee got from the application. In short, the presentation seemed to focus on an SSIS/WCMA Championship series event that just so happened to include a National Championship. It was very important to ASN Canada FIA that a Championship event be strictly focused on the CAC.

VCMC's proposal won based on the club's track record for hosting large events (120+), its strong sponsorship and financials (every CAC event to date has lost money), the promise of a new site, and the fact that CAC has never been to the West Coast of Canada.