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**VR6TURBO** · July 8, 2002, 08:37

I would also like to know more about what Terence has said.

Also Once mail my SCCA membership form to participate in the NT, when do I recieve my membership card? Or They will know I am a member of SCCA once I get to Bremerton?

For the SCCA membership, which one should I purchase the regular membership or the speed freakz membership? what's the difference?

As for decals requirements ex: Tirerack, Solo II events, and Solo II NT decals. Do I recieve them at the event? or SCCA will send it to me in mail? Will it be too late?

I can't really find SCCA Solo II rulebook on the net. Is there a site I can go to?

I also want to experience national competition. I know I don't have much chance of winning also, but I think it will be nice to go to at least one of the NT. The only thing holding me back is spending ~$700-$900 for 3.5 days, leaving friday morning and coming back monday evening. This includes racing fee, scca license, hotel, food, gas, others, etc. Is there anyway to cut this down. How much is everyone spending on this event?

Thank You

**Race Miata** · July 8, 2002, 08:39

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Terence:
Chris will probably come too.<hr></blockquote>

Yeah, I haven't really thought about it either until you brought it up. Too bad my full CACC CSP car is just out of SCCA CSP legal boundary (port-and-polish all the way thru'). I got killed by Chris Imbeau's in the DP Midget once so I should get some others to kill me this time.

Just noticed from the "entry list that nobody is on DSP yet.

I also see Greg Downing with his 323 GTX in SM. I remeber I was .2 second behind him in CSP claiming 2nd place title in my 1st ever race in my miata. Wow! It's been 6.5 years and both of us are still racing the same cars! Isn't that amazing? [img]redface.gif[/img] I guess his car is not CSP legal anymore? Maybe 20psi of boost?

Sounds interesting if I can run in that class. So before I get ahold of an SCCA rulebook, could someone explain what the difference is between SM and SM2? Am I allowed to run in SM according to my mods?

**swiftdb1** · July 8, 2002, 09:17

It's great to see the interest at running the Bremerton NT.

It is not too late to send in your entries but do it soon. If you don't have a membership, you can write down "will get at the event" on the entry form and fax it in - but do it soon.

As for car classes, it is unfortunate that our classes in CACC and SCCA don't quite line up. The formation of SM, SM2, STX, ST all help so I would guess that it you have a fully prepped car in CACC SP, your car would fall into SM or SM2. Most of our SS cars will be underprepped for SCCA SP. Also, we are more liberal with the stock classes so your car might not be stock legal there. Let me know what you drive and I might be able to help with figuring out which class your cars are in.

All the SM and SM2 info is in this website:
http://www.wincom.net/trog/stu/index.html

SCCA does not have their rule book online because they will only provide paper books or CD ROM. IF you have specific questions, I can try and answer them.

As for cost, your best bet is to find a room mate and split the room costs with him/her. Most of us will be going down there on Friday AM to make the practice session and leaving on Sunday PM after the trophy presesntations so you only need to book for 2 nights. I'd like to get a head count to see who will be convoying down.

Alex

**Terence** · July 8, 2002, 10:00

Thanks for reply, Alex.

Could you look up the SCCA rule book to see if I should be in DSP?

Here are my mods:

coil-over spring perch, frt camber plates, sway bars, tower bar, frt control arm poly bushings(not offset), different wheel dia./width/offset than stock(but tread will stay within fenders, r-compound tires(different size than stock), LSD, took the engine driven cooling fan off, K&N replacement air filter, will take back seat and passenager seat off(maybe some other interior panels too).

thanks,

Terence

[ July 13, 2002: Message edited by: Terence ]

**swiftdb1** · July 8, 2002, 10:55

Off the top of my head, removal of interior trim and seats will put you out of SP. In SM, you are allowed removal of the rear seat but not trim. Any removal of trim puts you into Prepared where Arnold's Civic and the Imbeau's Spridget runs.

Alex

**Jeff Loh** · July 8, 2002, 11:49

If y'all are going down knowing you're not gonna be competitive, but want to experience the 'big-show', then whatever closest class should work; whether it be SM, P, Mod... don't sweat the details. Just compare your times with cars closest to you.

Beg, borrow, barter for a room, just don't end up sleeping in your car.

Stickers you get at the site when you sign-in.

Unfortunately work won't let me fly up for the weekend. That, and lack of seat-time.

[ July 08, 2002: Message edited by: Jeff Loh ]

**Neon Racer** · July 8, 2002, 12:43

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Race Miata:

Yeah, I haven't really thought about it either until you brought it up. Too bad my full CACC CSP car is just out of SCCA CSP legal boundary (port-and-polish all the way thru'). I got killed by Chris Imbeau's in the DP Midget once so I should get some others to kill me this time.

Just noticed from the "entry list that nobody is on DSP yet. I also see Greg Downing with his 323 GTX in SM. I remeber I was .2 second behind him in CSP claiming 2nd place title in my 1st ever race in my miata. Wow! It's been 6.5 years and both of us are still racing the same cars! Isn't that amazing? [img]redface.gif[/img] I guess his car is not CSP legal anymore? Maybe 20psi of boost? Sounds interesting if I can run in that class. So before I get ahold of an SCCA rulebook, could someone explain what the difference is between SM and SM2? Am I allowed to run in SM according to my mods?<hr></blockquote>

I've been trying to figure things out myself and it looks like you're ineligible for SM. SM is only for 4 seater cars that are not of "sports car origin" so it looks like you'll be put into SM2 (which is the 2 seater class).

**Race Miata** · July 8, 2002, 13:29

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Neon Racer:

I've been trying to figure things out myself and it looks like you're ineligible for SM. SM is only for 4 seater cars that are not of "sports car origin" so it looks like you'll be put into SM2 (which is the 2 seater class).<hr></blockquote>

Thanks Gerald. You're right. I've got a similar answer from the miata forum. Rumor is that a fast 1.6 turbo miata may show up.

**Guido** · July 8, 2002, 13:32

Hey Chris,

Here's the link to Jerry Mouton's site, http://www.moutons.org/sccasolo/Rule..._modified.html I think you could kick some butt in SM2.

**Race Miata** · July 8, 2002, 15:43

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by VR6TURBO:
The only thing holding me back is spending ~$700-$900 for 3.5 days<hr></blockquote>

Hmmm! Maybe my calculation is wrong... Are you going to stay in a 5-star hotel?

**Race Miata** · July 8, 2002, 15:46

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Guido:
I think you could kick some butt in SM2. <hr></blockquote>

No! Seems like the 1.6 turbo miata is not far from Chris Imbeau in the 73 MG Midget.

Also in such an open class, anything can happen like a well-tuned 500hp RX7TT.

**N2O4U** · July 8, 2002, 16:25

Alex,

Just to reconfirm what you said...
I am to fax in the entry form and write "Will get SCCA membership at the event"? Correct?
that is, I can get a membership on the weekend of NT on site, as opposed to applying in advance?

**swiftdb1** · July 8, 2002, 16:29

Andre,

Give SCCA a call. I remember doing it before and they said it was OK to get the membership on site

Alex

**N2O4U** · July 8, 2002, 16:30

TWo nights hotel has gotta be.. $150 US per night MAX...

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