Drivers Edge/BCMA Solo I !

[Bigger is Better]

Here is all the infomation of the event. You can find the registration form online and also make sure to check out the specials he has on for the event.

www.driversedgeautosport.com/trophychallenge.htm

Let me know if you have any questions.

[Bigger is Better]

Hey Guys,

OK there was a few of you that were intersted, so who is planning on going (I havent talked to Frank to see who has registered)?

It is on a Monday so you will have to take a day off but there is not many opportunies like this to get so much track time plus solo I!

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[RedChev]

Currently I have a work-thing that I might not be able to get out of. The event landed on the ONE DAY this is a problem for me.

But, its looking like that may be cancelled and if so I'm definetly there.

Rob
#124 Cavalier - SP3 (SP3 *** ?)

[swiftdb1]

Some of us will still be towing back from Topeka. Too bad, I would love to take the Swift out on the track.

Alex

[autobacs]

Im in and i've already registered.

-Chris Cassan SP1

[autobacs]

Johnny, do u have any other info on the event?
Can u or anybody else provide us people who are going to Mission for the first time on some 'must bring items', do's and dont's, tips, etc?
Thanks.

[TRWAE86]

Johnny, I was just about to pay up for this event the day my car got stolen. I still wish to enter but must wait for the outcome from ICBC.(car recovered). Is there a last day to enter at the $150 price or can an exception be made.

Thanks
TODD F/SS
SP-1 solo 1

[Iron Chef]

actually that is a very good question

this will be my very first solo 1 event. is there anything i should do to prepare for it.

can anyone give me some sort of idea of what i'm getting my self into?
<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by autobacs:
Johnny, do u have any other info on the event?
Can u or anybody else provide us people who are going to Mission for the first time on some 'must bring items', do's and dont's, tips, etc?
Thanks.<hr></blockquote>

[Vancouver Special]

For any higher speed (higher risk) events like Solo 1, track day, street solo and hillclimb, the first thing to do is to reconize the risk involved. Once you have accepted that, remember the following:

1) Remind youself what Velocity Driving School have taught you - "precision, smoothness and control". For higher speed events, the word "Control" is spelled with a capital C. Build up your speed gradually instead of trying to establish a track record on your 3rd lap.

2) Cars set up with perfect balance for autox would be a bit too "tail happy" at higher speed. A car (especially with FWD) that "rotates" at slower speed corners with trail braking would become full blown "oversteer" at high speed sweepers merely by trailing throttle. Set up your car with a bit more understeer would make it more forgiving should you find yourself going too fast at corner entry. Use less front tire pressure (-4 psi) and pump up the rear tires (+4 psie). If your sway bars are adjustable, bias a bit more understeer into the car. Try that for a few laps and see how the car handles.

3) Bounday Bay with its concrete surface is VERY sticky compare to anything else. Don't expect to pull the same kind of Gs on the track. Again, build your speed gradually to probe the limit.

4) If you know for sure you are leaving the pavement at high speed, just point your vehicle straight and ride it out. Slow right down before trying to turn the car back onto the track. Most roll over happens when the driver (especially on a tall stock production car) tries to steer too aggressive while running on the soft bumpy stuff. If you have been practicing "control" with a capital C, you wouldn't get yourself into this situation in the first place.

5) If it rains, don't use those bald R compound tires you love so much. Once they let go at high speed, they slide a loooong way.

6) There is no big prize money, the goal is to bring your car back with the shiney side up.

7) Remember what I said in my signature quote back in May, just before Knox Mountain Hillclimb, "Go in slow, come out fast. Go in fast, come out dead."


Higher speed events are very exciting. With the higher speed, comes higher risks. Some events would only ask for the minimal safety equipments. Bear in mind that is the minimum. As a driver, you should always do whatever up grade you could to protect yourself. As novice Solo 1 drivers, don't pay too much attention to lap times. Just go out and have fun. Like Solo 2, speed with come eventually with experience. Good luck.

Joe

[autobacs]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Phantom:


2) Cars set up with perfect balance for autox would be a bit too "tail happy" at higher speed. A car (especially with FWD) that "rotates" at slower speed corners with trail braking would become full blown "oversteer" at high speed sweepers merely by trailing throttle. Set up your car with a bit more understeer would make it more forgiving should you find yourself going too fast at corner entry. Use less front tire pressure (-4 psi) and pump up the rear tires (+4 psie). If your sway bars are adjustable, bias a bit more understeer into the car. Try that for a few laps and see how the car handles.

Joe<hr></blockquote>

Aaaaahhh, this was something that i have been questioning myself for a long time! Thanks Joe. That really helps me from getting an idea of how my car might handle at higher overall cornering speeds.


I hope we will see sunshine on that day...crossing my fingers.

[Iron Chef]

are we allowed to have senior drivers ride along with us like in solo 2?

about what speeds am i going to reach approximately?

how technical is the course? compared to solo 2?

as far as what i understand are the only safety requirements 5 point harness and snell 95 helmet?

from drag racing last season at mission they made us drain the coolant. do they do the same thing here for solo 1?

thanks

[Race Miata]

I want to add that brakes are important and may be overlooked at higher speed events especially at Mission. The old Mission track was very demanding on brakes even for experienced drivers and I heard the new layout is even worse. You may have absolutely no brake problems anywhere else while still have them cooked in 3 laps at Mission.

[icegs]

Don't drain the coolant. That's a drag racing thing, and even for that, there is more than just drianing the coolant. That's what lubricates your water pump for one thing. Drive on a track after draining it, and you'll be lucky to make one lap before you destroy the engine.

In general, a track isn't as technical as a solo 2 course. The track is a lot more wide open, so there is some space to play with. That doesn't mean that you can let up a even a little on driving technique or attention to it. The cement walls give you the inspiration to pay attention. They don't move when you get too close -- it's not fun, I've hit them before.

[Iron Chef]

sorry i should have been clearer. i mean drain the coolant and replace it with water and water wetter. that would be the wiser thing to do at the track.

i just want to know how close is this to being a full on lapping day.
<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Gord:
Don't drain the coolant. That's a drag racing thing, and even for that, there is more than just drianing the coolant. That's what lubricates your water pump for one thing. Drive on a track after draining it, and you'll be lucky to make one lap before you destroy the engine.

In general, a track isn't as technical as a solo 2 course. The track is a lot more wide open, so there is some space to play with. That doesn't mean that you can let up a even a little on driving technique or attention to it. The cement walls give you the inspiration to pay attention. They don't move when you get too close -- it's not fun, I've hit them before.<hr></blockquote>

[Neon Racer]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Iron Chef:
are we allowed to have senior drivers ride along with us like in solo 2?

about what speeds am i going to reach approximately?

how technical is the course? compared to solo 2?

as far as what i understand are the only safety requirements 5 point harness and snell 95 helmet?

from drag racing last season at mission they made us drain the coolant. do they do the same thing here for solo 1?

thanks <hr></blockquote>

In cars like ours, you'll be at about 150-160 km/h max.

Things seem to happen much more slowly than in autox, even though the speeds are higher.

I'd recommend more than 50% brake pad material - I've baked a set of rotors and pads because I was a bit low. I found that metal on metal still has some good friction though